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1976 April 14, 10:28 (Wednesday)
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TEXT ON MICROFILM,TEXT ONLINE
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TE - Telegram (cable)
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ACTION OES - Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs
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Electronic Telegrams
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Margaret P. Grafeld Declassified/Released US Department of State EO Systematic Review 04 MAY 2006
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(D) IAEA VIENNA 1953
1. SCIATT MET WITH DR. YOKA ADAR, DIRECTOR FOREIGN RELATIONS,
ISRAEL ATOMIC ENERGY COMMISSION ON APRIL 12. DURING COURSE
OF CONVERSATION ADAR PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
(A) COMMISSIONERS, WITH PRIME MINISTER RABIN PRESENT AS CHAIRMAN, MET LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS DRAFT AGREEMENT PROVIDED BY REF A. ADAR BELIEVES THERE ARE NO MAJOR ISSUES BUT IAEC DIRECTOR UZI EILAM HAS SOME "CONCERNS". AS TO EXACTLY WHAT CONCERNS, ADAR NOT WILLING TO STATE. HE DID SAY DRAFT AGREEMENT CONSIDERED TO BE MUCH MORE FAVORABLE THAN ONE IN PAST.
(B) NSSS (NUCLEAR STEAM SUPPLY SYSTEM) SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO EXTEND BIDS TO SEPTEMBER 1 WITH NO CHANGE IN APRIL 1, 1985 OPERATIONAL DATE.
(C) ALTHOUGH INFERRING OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL PAGE 02 TEL AV 02671 141128Z DRAFT AGREEMENT IN NEAR FUTURE, ADAR QUESTIONED EFFECT ON US, IF THERE WERE FURTHER DELAY WITH ISRAELI AGREEMENT. SCIATT RESPONDED WITH GIST OF PARA 2 REF A ON DESIRABILITY OF PROCEEDING IN TANDEM, ETC. ADAR STATED THEY APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR SYMMETRY IN AGREEMENTS AND WERE SENSITIVE TO POTENTIAL PROBLEMS IN ELECTION YEAR OF CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW DELAYS.
(D) HE DISCUSSED ISRAELIS CONTINUED INTEREST IN A DUAL NUCLEAR POWER WATER DESALTING PLANT AND INDICATED DEFINITE PLANNING FOR THIS TYPE OPERATION WITH SECOND NUCLEAR POWER FACILITY. IAEC WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE WITH FIRST PLANT BUT ISRAEL ELECTRIC CORP. OBJECTS, ALTHOUGH IF THERE ARE CONTINUED DELAYS IN CONTRACTING THEN MAY BE POSSIBLE TO ADD TO FIRST.
( E) ADAR EXPRESSED INTEREST IN US COOPERATION IN DEVELOPING SEA WATER COOLING TOWER TECHNOLOGY FOR USE WITH NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS. IAEC EVIDENTLY HAS HAD SOME LIMITED DISCUSSION WITH WESTINGHOUSE AND SOMEONE AT UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. ISRAEL SEES POTENTIAL USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS LOCATED ALONG PROPOSED MEDITERRANEAN/DEAD SEA CANAL (REF B) WHERE FLOW RATE INSUFFICIENT FOR THROUGH-PUT COOLING. COMMENT: IF SUFFICIENT US INTEREST THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED AS POSSIBLE PROJECT FOR NEW BINATIONAL INDUSTRIAL R&D FOUNDATION SUPPORT.
(F) ADAR STATED CONSENSUS NOW THAT THERE IS NO COASTLINE FAULT AS PREVIOUSLY SUSPECTED BY SOME ISRAELIS, (SEE REF C) AND EXPRESSED IRRITATION THAT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AND TIME HAD BEEN SPENT ON BASIS OF VERY QUESTIONABLE SUSPICIONS. GEOPHYSICAL SURVEY ANALYSIS WILL BE COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER.
(G) EKLUND VISIT (REF D) WAS DESCRIBED AS TOURISTIC WITH NO SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS.
2. REQUEST DEPARTMENT ADVICE AND COMMENT.
CONFIDENTIAL
Nuclear Weapon Israel Progres :
(A) COMMISSIONERS, WITH PRIME MINISTER RABIN PRESENT AS CHAIRMAN, MET LAST WEEK TO DISCUSS DRAFT AGREEMENT PROVIDED BY REF A. ADAR BELIEVES THERE ARE NO MAJOR ISSUES BUT IAEC DIRECTOR UZI EILAM HAS SOME "CONCERNS". AS TO EXACTLY WHAT CONCERNS, ADAR NOT WILLING TO STATE. HE DID SAY DRAFT AGREEMENT CONSIDERED TO BE MUCH MORE FAVORABLE THAN ONE IN PAST.
(B) NSSS (NUCLEAR STEAM SUPPLY SYSTEM) SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO EXTEND BIDS TO SEPTEMBER 1 WITH NO CHANGE IN APRIL 1, 1985 OPERATIONAL DATE.
(C) ALTHOUGH INFERRING OFFICIAL RESPONSE TO CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL PAGE 02 TEL AV 02671 141128Z DRAFT AGREEMENT IN NEAR FUTURE, ADAR QUESTIONED EFFECT ON US, IF THERE WERE FURTHER DELAY WITH ISRAELI AGREEMENT. SCIATT RESPONDED WITH GIST OF PARA 2 REF A ON DESIRABILITY OF PROCEEDING IN TANDEM, ETC. ADAR STATED THEY APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR SYMMETRY IN AGREEMENTS AND WERE SENSITIVE TO POTENTIAL PROBLEMS IN ELECTION YEAR OF CONGRESSIONAL REVIEW DELAYS.
(D) HE DISCUSSED ISRAELIS CONTINUED INTEREST IN A DUAL NUCLEAR POWER WATER DESALTING PLANT AND INDICATED DEFINITE PLANNING FOR THIS TYPE OPERATION WITH SECOND NUCLEAR POWER FACILITY. IAEC WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE WITH FIRST PLANT BUT ISRAEL ELECTRIC CORP. OBJECTS, ALTHOUGH IF THERE ARE CONTINUED DELAYS IN CONTRACTING THEN MAY BE POSSIBLE TO ADD TO FIRST.
( E) ADAR EXPRESSED INTEREST IN US COOPERATION IN DEVELOPING SEA WATER COOLING TOWER TECHNOLOGY FOR USE WITH NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS. IAEC EVIDENTLY HAS HAD SOME LIMITED DISCUSSION WITH WESTINGHOUSE AND SOMEONE AT UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. ISRAEL SEES POTENTIAL USE OF THIS TECHNOLOGY FOR NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS LOCATED ALONG PROPOSED MEDITERRANEAN/DEAD SEA CANAL (REF B) WHERE FLOW RATE INSUFFICIENT FOR THROUGH-PUT COOLING. COMMENT: IF SUFFICIENT US INTEREST THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED AS POSSIBLE PROJECT FOR NEW BINATIONAL INDUSTRIAL R&D FOUNDATION SUPPORT.
(F) ADAR STATED CONSENSUS NOW THAT THERE IS NO COASTLINE FAULT AS PREVIOUSLY SUSPECTED BY SOME ISRAELIS, (SEE REF C) AND EXPRESSED IRRITATION THAT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS AND TIME HAD BEEN SPENT ON BASIS OF VERY QUESTIONABLE SUSPICIONS. GEOPHYSICAL SURVEY ANALYSIS WILL BE COMPLETED BY SEPTEMBER.
(G) EKLUND VISIT (REF D) WAS DESCRIBED AS TOURISTIC WITH NO SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSIONS.
2. REQUEST DEPARTMENT ADVICE AND COMMENT.
CONFIDENTIAL
Nuclear Weapon Israel Progres :
Fwd: [Letters to STRATFOR] RE: Nuclear geopolitic-Israel
Released on 2012-10-19 08:00 GMT| Email-ID | 972626 |
|---|---|
| Date | 2009-05-28 18:01:12 |
| From | dial@stratfor.com |
| To | responses@stratfor.com |
Fwd: [Letters to STRATFOR] RE: Nuclear geopolitic-Israel
Begin forwarded message:
From: morasha18@msn.com
Date: May 28, 2009 12:10:01 AM CDT
To: letters@stratfor.com
Subject: [Letters to STRATFOR] RE: Nuclear geopolitic-Israel
Reply-To: morasha18@msn.com
Michael Archer sent a message using the contact form at
https://www.stratfor.com/contact.
The recent article regarding the geopolitical changes one could expect
from the rise of nations aquireing their own nuclear arsenal was a
thoughtful and sound rational overveiw of what one may expect for future
stability in the world community. However there is one aspect to the
various scenarioswhich strikes me as being novel to the mix. The rise of
Muslim extremeism in these latter times has introduced a fearful element
for which none of the rational end games have a quieting recourse. Put
simply, the dedicated religious Muslim mind is not rational, in a world
community context. The advent of their Messiah will be in chaos on earth
and the destruction of the Jewish peoples where ever they may be found.
This two pronged obsession for them knows no bounds and is most
assuredly
not hindered by community sanctions of any kind. All motivation for the
fulfillment of our greatest fears comes from an otherworldly source; the
dedication to which is best proved by fanatical deeds which will bring
the
longed for realigning of the world to their peculiar religious bent.
Obsession becomes the key word here as it applies to Israel. The
greatest
blessings can only be imagined, to the eager student of Allah who would
by
a single push of a button wipe out the main impediment to the Messiah's
coming- the existence of Israel. This I believe is the folly of the
Obama
"plan" to deal with Iran in such sophomoric overtures as have been seen
in
the last few weeks: failing to count the cost in the currency of the
Islamic dedication religiosly to their true cause. To this end I also
was
brought to ponder (by thie recent article) when the last time was that
Israel test fired a rocket showing their delivery prowess?? I wonder if
their secrecy about their nuclear capability is a paper tiger belying
the
reality that they are not prepared to compare favorably in the missle
delivery arena. What a dramatic bluff that would be, if we were to
believe
that the military powers that be could not bring themselves to offend
their
religious training in the Torah-re: the taking of human life. After all
is
said and read in the Bible their is scant mention of the use of such
devices in the prophecy regarding the discipline of the nations for
their
treatment of Israel. Oddly enough it speaks of horse armies coming down
into the valley of judgement from the King of the North and in another
place that blood would be up to the horese bridles from the carnage. Not
exactly the image one imagines the prophet seeing through the lens of a
smart bomb guidance camera!!! Thanks for the platform to pose the
question
about Israel's capabilities.
Begin forwarded message:
From: morasha18@msn.com
Date: May 28, 2009 12:10:01 AM CDT
To: letters@stratfor.com
Subject: [Letters to STRATFOR] RE: Nuclear geopolitic-Israel
Reply-To: morasha18@msn.com
Michael Archer sent a message using the contact form at
https://www.stratfor.com/contact.
The recent article regarding the geopolitical changes one could expect
from the rise of nations aquireing their own nuclear arsenal was a
thoughtful and sound rational overveiw of what one may expect for future
stability in the world community. However there is one aspect to the
various scenarioswhich strikes me as being novel to the mix. The rise of
Muslim extremeism in these latter times has introduced a fearful element
for which none of the rational end games have a quieting recourse. Put
simply, the dedicated religious Muslim mind is not rational, in a world
community context. The advent of their Messiah will be in chaos on earth
and the destruction of the Jewish peoples where ever they may be found.
This two pronged obsession for them knows no bounds and is most
assuredly
not hindered by community sanctions of any kind. All motivation for the
fulfillment of our greatest fears comes from an otherworldly source; the
dedication to which is best proved by fanatical deeds which will bring
the
longed for realigning of the world to their peculiar religious bent.
Obsession becomes the key word here as it applies to Israel. The
greatest
blessings can only be imagined, to the eager student of Allah who would
by
a single push of a button wipe out the main impediment to the Messiah's
coming- the existence of Israel. This I believe is the folly of the
Obama
"plan" to deal with Iran in such sophomoric overtures as have been seen
in
the last few weeks: failing to count the cost in the currency of the
Islamic dedication religiosly to their true cause. To this end I also
was
brought to ponder (by thie recent article) when the last time was that
Israel test fired a rocket showing their delivery prowess?? I wonder if
their secrecy about their nuclear capability is a paper tiger belying
the
reality that they are not prepared to compare favorably in the missle
delivery arena. What a dramatic bluff that would be, if we were to
believe
that the military powers that be could not bring themselves to offend
their
religious training in the Torah-re: the taking of human life. After all
is
said and read in the Bible their is scant mention of the use of such
devices in the prophecy regarding the discipline of the nations for
their
treatment of Israel. Oddly enough it speaks of horse armies coming down
into the valley of judgement from the King of the North and in another
place that blood would be up to the horese bridles from the carnage. Not
exactly the image one imagines the prophet seeing through the lens of a
smart bomb guidance camera!!! Thanks for the platform to pose the
question
about Israel's capabilities.
Secret Israel - US Document. Thanks Geoni Leardo and hacking team, good bless you ^_^
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